Feb 10. The issue has nothing to do with the FDA or ‘Big Pharma’. But I never see it. @kettle Where exactly does feminism say women shouldn’t be criticised? Beginning in 2011, through a secret arrangement with the CIA, the State Department was given the power to green-light drone strikes. That's it. It s a joke about the right-wing idiots who think that Hillary goes around offing people like some pastel-pantsuited Tony Soprano. Red Pill romancer plans to pull the birds with a fake British accent, 26 creepy, threatening or otherwise completely inappropriate vintage Valentine’s Day cards, Some of the Capitol attackers have histories of abuse against women? @Repentantphonebooth: Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. 88k Followers, 707 Following, 4,330 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Jen Kirkman (@jenkirkman) Comedian Jen Kirkman is not quitting Twitter, but not not quitting Twitter, either, after tweeting a questionable joke about Hillary Clinton. Why? It's not about canceling comedians or ruining clubs lives. However, it didn’t quite land, and many began criticizing her for making light of the wars Clinton has had a hand in. In other words, the joke is not actually a joke about murder. And instead of stopping for a second to ask themselves, “wait, is this comedian lady who does those hilarious yet disarmingly earnest segments on Drunk History really mocking or even advocating the murder of children, why would she do that, that can’t be right” many of these people decided to advocate the murder of her. She used to have a great twitter account to follow, too. It lead to the rise of ISIS, sex slavery, genocide, religious persecution, hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, a refugee invasion of Europe, hundreds of terrorist attacks, dead Americans in Benghazi, dead Americans in Europe, and misery and suffering in general. You never did flesh out “imply” and until you do you are useless to me. I would be surprised, except I read the Daily KOS article that I’m linking earlier today. Either way, I’m about 99.9% sure that it was a sarcastic comment. Or dead Pakistanis cos fuck them for harbouring bin Laden, right Axecalibur? They’re a bit like the people who thought Stalin was too lax in the forced collectivizations and wanted the USSR to get more serious about violently spreading revolution to other countries. Right-wing hatred is far more prevalent and more dangerous, but the amount of anger, targeted harassment and scapegoating, violent rhetoric and outright violence from the left in recent years is definitely unsettling. (Photo: E. Bradshaw via Wikimedia Commons) o.O. wow. @kettle- Irony is when the intended meaning is the opposite of the literal meaning. These are people who, in many instances, consider themselves progressives, radicals, anarchists, “revolutionaries.” These are, in more than a few cases, proud supporters of Jill Stein, a woman whose presence in the race makes it all that much harder to defeat the unhinged Muslim-hating racist Donald Trump. Of course death threats and harassment are indefensible, but it’s dishonest to suggest that Kirkman was 100% right and her only critics are misogynistic bros. I’ll grant you that. 2021 ... a Larry King story, more comedians getting Covid, struggles with a duvet cover, earnest people are ruining Twitter, and how working from bed is good for you. A+ feminism. Clinton’s State Department approved the CIA’s requests in all but one or two instances. I’ve criticized Sanders and Stein before and am therefore one of the “mean girls”. If Hillary wasn’t a Democrat, Democrats would be calling for her imprisonment. I just wanted to say that maybe the interpretation of the joke depends on age/political awareness. I don’t believe Stein is an anti-vaxxer, but she supports a number of positions that are unscientific Green Party baggage. This cultural trend means: Abandon your minds, sheeple, and do not independently asses the ideas put forth by others. Unless it is what she means, in which case she can have a seat, You know, like JK really meant the Vince Foster thing and not lol dead Afghanis, I could not possibly care what she meant. ... Second of all, back in 2012/2013, Twitter used to be fun. So, somebody’s failed Feminism 101 here, but it ain’t David. I blame Bush and Cheney. She’s trying not to alienate the more left wing anti-vaxxers who might consider voting for her. So are you going to respond to the point that others have made about you sizing the symbol “female” in order to shame someone when you are yourself using it in a bigoted manner? I love your username…so random. Unfortunately, many of those who encountered Kirkman’s Tweet on Twitter — a large number of whom seem to be former Bernie Sanders supporters who’ve gone over the Green Party’s Jill Stein — have kind of missed the point just a little, misreading it as some sort of creepy celebration of drones murdering children in Afghanistan, or something. I doubt Trump hates; he simply loves himself more than anyone else. Instead, accept “the consensus,” and be driven by your feelings; human whim will lead to a better world; majority whim, “democracy,” is the ideal. The people bombarding Kirkman with threats and abuse aren’t Trump fans. Once Hillary won the nomination and Vermont senator graciously and enthusiastically endorsed her, the gloves really came off. The issue is the entire antivaxx stance is based on a known medical fraud perpetrated by Andrew Wakefield: Saying a shitty thing is shitty, and bringing a dead loved one into a discussion is low, but is it twitter hordes low? The media’s “Mean Girls” style contempt isn’t just for Bernie or Busters or Stein supporters. Orac’s in-depth analysis of Jill Stein’s antivaccine dog whistles is here and it is worth a read. @juliussharpe. Ya know, actual crimes. It’s a name with a story, but for another day……. Yeah she didn’t say a damn thing about vaccines causing autism. I can see where if someone were younger (or hadn’t been following the “controversies” for the last couple of decades) and had heard a lot of talk about Hillary being a hawk, they might interpret it that way and assume it was a comment about the recent military actions abroad. She’s addressing in a ham-handed way the involvement of corporations in the healthcare industry. A lot of “progressive” people online can be a little out of touch with reality and fall into what’s historically been considered “ultraleft” in communist circles. Or dead Pakistanis cos fuck them for harbouring bin Laden, right Axecalibur? Kirkman produces I Seem Fun: The Diary Of Jen Kirkman, her own weekly podcast, and has made several appearances on The Crabfeast podcast, which is … It’s why I included myself as one of people hit by the “take that”. Comedian Goes On Twitter Strike To Protest Harassment Of Female Comics Eric Murphy November 29, 2012. 2021 We Hunted The Mammoth. Jen Kirkman is a lefty sort of comic. The joke seemed to reference drone strikes, and riff on hardcore Hillary supporters who try to spin everything she does as positive. And that’s actually what got a bunch of bernie bros jammies in a knot. Comedian Jen Kirkman talks about Boston, her new comedy album, and if Elizabeth Warren's Twitter crusade against Donald Trump has been effective. And thanks, Violet!! I’ve seen enough to decide. I think dropping vaccinations rates that can and must be fixed in order to get at the vaccination issue: the widespread distrust of the medical-indsutrial complex. Or maybe that entire thing was meant ironically? After Kirkman noted that she would be handing the operation of her Twitter account to someone else because she was tired of reading all the death threats, some of her Twitter, er, critics, did little victory dances of sorts. I think Twitter is where I draw the line with technology. Folks “progressively” making those twitter threats, with those words, and simultaneously not getting the (older than the Internet) joke liberals have been making* since Newt Gingrich was on his first wife? Jen talks about the latest gender reveal party that ended in tragedy, idiots on Twitter, Adam Carolla is afraid of bracelets, a teenaged op-ed in The NY Times that is enraging, the story of Dutch resistance fighter teenaged girls who killed Nazis in the woods, and Jen talks about how she loved not having an allowance as a kid. In most countries, people trust their regulatory agencies and have very high rates of vaccination through voluntary programs. 6h. Sad, but not surprising. IT IS SO MUCH SIMPLER AND WAY MORE FUN (it's punk rock!!!) 2016 Democrats: Actually, murder is good and every war Clinton escalates and initiates will be awesome@JenKirkman pic.twitter.com/eje3RMlQXx, — Ben Norton (@BenjaminNorton) August 4, 2016, So, progressive Hillarybots – are you going to stand by @JenKirkman on this? Jen Kirkman ... Posted on February 26, 2009 | 4 comments. You sounded so reasonable until you hit the “unhinged-Muslim-hating-racist-Donald-Trump” macro. Stein is a delusional crank. Someone even took the anti-Kirkman struggle to Wikipedia. She also says she’s received death threats and other abuse. I shared to mock (especially in contrast with what we’re seeing here and in the anti-Semitic and misognist memes against Clinton seen in other WHTM posts), not praise. I want them imprisoned for the torture program, ignoring habeas corpus, Cheney outing a CIA agent, etc. 4. Unhinged, very possibly, but the rest of it is lazy. Jen Kirkman before a 2011 taping of Chelsea Lately. Also also, aren’t you anti-Hillary trolls constantly shouting “You’re only defending/voting for Hillary because she’s a woman”? PS David gets all the feminism points for implying that a female presidential candidate should drop out because she’s making things difficult. Hope that helps!! “I like that she’s murdered people” = “I don’t think she actually murdered people”. https://twitter.com/lastlivingrose/status/761283232260362240. Jen Kirkman is no stranger to Netflix. I’m not sure if it’s ramped up lately, or I was in denial about it, or what. According to the most recent review of vaccination policies across the globe, mandatory vaccination that doesn’t allow for medical exemptions is practically unheard of. Aside from Ray and Hartzell, Mahoney was oftentimes associated with stand-up comedian Jen Kirkman (The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Chelsea Lately) as the two were married from 2009 to 2011. Most people in the US are moderately liberal even if they vote for Republican candidates for other reasons. Jen Kirkman criticized Jezebel both on Twitter and to other outlets, implying that we had somehow spearheaded a campaign against her in order to … So who wouldn’t be skeptical? that was intense. In the US, however, regulatory agencies are routinely packed with corporate lobbyists and CEOs. Sad. [UPDATE 8/5 Kirkman herself made clear that’s what she meant in a Tweet today.]. When I first found out about Twitter last year, I wrote a snarky column about it for an online magazine I was working for. Oh yes, it’s sooooo progressive to call refugees invaders. Tickets are available at thewilbur.com. Hillary and Obama went to war in Libya without congressional approval, If Hillary wasn’t a Democrat, Democrats would be calling for her imprisonment, I should hope not. That’s bad, whether or not the former causes the latter, She’s addressing in a ham-handed way the involvement of corporations in the healthcare industry, She’s running for President. https://t.co/UKDs8KQrsF, — Galway Curiousblue (@iamcuriousblue) August 4, 2016, https://twitter.com/lastlivingrose/status/760999815778041856, https://twitter.com/STLeftist/status/761313833012998144. He’s a fundie creationist type. If you think that being a feminist means all women should be immune to criticism, then you’re not one. So y’know, most of the people of the commenting here are basically factually wrong. Democrats want a week of political theater raging at Donald Trump instead of focusing on reopening schools or getting millions of Americans back to work. You see, I’ve been made aware of the truth that everyone here at WHTM who has ever criticized Stein, Sanders, or either’s supporters are savage bullies who love to nutpick, taunt, misrepresent, and humiliate like Regina George. The Daily Dot has reached out to Kirkman about the joke, but has not heard back as of this posting. You see, Patton made a joke about the president being bipolar or something, and he started receiving some pissed off tweets from people who (rightly imo) believe that stigmatizes the mentally ill. One such person linked Oswald’s heartfelt essay about his deceased wife to a tweet that read something like ‘I can’t believe you could say those things after writing this’. Simple as that. (Sorry, this embed was not found.) @tedcruz. She also thinks GMO’s should be banned until they are proven safe, even though there is no evidence that they are not safe. Would love your thoughts, please comment. So, e.g., putting having an idealized vision of how things should be over getting stuff done, opposing the Democrats just as much as the GOP, criticizing feminism and other forms of identity politics “from the left,” etc. Is this "intersectional feminism"? I suggest substitution with cynical. I found this out after reading the following op-ed: Little did we know, the media was actually pulling its punches. But Wodun, I LIKE that Hillary lead to the rise of ISIS, sex slavery, genocide, religious persecution, hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, a refugee invasion of Europe, hundreds of terrorist attacks, dead Americans in Benghazi, dead Americans in Europe, and misery and suffering in general. U.S. foreign policy actually does kill people. Sad, but not surprised. Take note of the doubtful, introspective tone of the comment you obviously didn’t comprehend. There is no scientific evidence that organic food is healthier than non-organic food and higher cost would be a food security issue. Her writing has appeared in GQ, ELLE, the Toast, the New Yorker, Tthe Hairpin, BuzzFeed, Racked, Eater, Catapult, and others. They just laugh at ridicule of people or causes they don’t like. Not the first time Oswald’s done something like this. Ted Cruz. In a world of Netflix specials and podcasts and Twitter, why would a stand-up comedian still put out an old-fashioned comedy album? If Stein can’t figure that out, she’s too dumb to be in politics. That’s why people got upset. Kirkman’s thread was launched after a Twitter user criticized her for having a chance to expose C.K. I sometimes make “Hillary personally ran Vince over with a train” comments to people I know and who also know that these conspiracies are stupid. Join Jen Kirkman and her surprise guests for the variety show filled with comedy, stories, sketch, music and more that brings together both lovers and haters of the holiday season! Bonus points.). Comedian Jen Kirkman is not quitting Twitter, but not not quitting Twitter, either, after tweeting a questionable joke about Hillary Clinton. So the foxes are guarding the chicken coop as usual in the US. If it was the former, they’d be posting it on Twitter towards the harassers, not here towards us. Now she’s back with another, Jen Kirkman: Just Keep Livin’?, which is available now on the streaming service. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. years ago and not going forward with it. Oswald told her to fuck right off into the sun (sensible reply, imo) and she deleted the tweet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield#Fraud_and_conflict_of_interest_allegations Most of the actual leftists who got angry at the tweet seemed too feel that it was a reference to Hillary’s foreign policies killing people in other countries and not to the right-wing conspiracy theories like Vince Foster. In fact, I think you are being silly for believing that to be the case. She is the co-author of 'Dad Magazine,' the author of 'The Book Of Lost Recipes,' and the co-author of 'Basic Witches. It’s kind of hard to take the “it’s racist to vote for Hillary Clinton” talking point seriously when you say shit like this. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! 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